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#1 Posted: 9/26/2023 2:22:21 AM
Valery Ochkov

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Continuing the topic
https://en.smath.com/forum/yaf_postst23677_Why-I-have-no.aspx

This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath?
Spiral-Euler.sm (5.75 KiB) downloaded 308 time(s).
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#2 Posted: 9/26/2023 8:41:22 AM
Alvaro Diaz Falconi

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Hi Valery. SMath doesn't know how to handle the derivative of an integral, neither numerically nor symbolically. As workaround, you can try this approach:

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Best regards.
Alvaro.
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#3 Posted: 9/27/2023 8:55:52 AM
Jean Giraud

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This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath ?


The curvature exists in the ± 1 range. But not as you attempted.
Let my tech doctor Win 10, will attach later.
Jean.

#4 Posted: 9/27/2023 7:06:44 PM
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How to show it in SMath ?


Maths Clothoid Copy.sm (53.73 KiB) downloaded 287 time(s).

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Valery Ochkov 9/28/2023 1:28:00 AM
#5 Posted: 9/28/2023 3:58:26 AM
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How to show it in SMath ?


Maths Clothoid Copy.sm (53.73 KiB) downloaded 287 time(s).



#6 Posted: 9/28/2023 3:59:06 AM
Valery Ochkov

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#7 Posted: 9/28/2023 4:19:07 AM
Martin Kraska

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Continuing the topic

This is a clothoid or Euler spiral (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euler_spiral). It is said about it that its curvature depends linearly on its length. How to show it in SMath?



For the attached sheet to work, the Statistical Tools plugin must be deactivated, because it's erf() shadows the Maxima function erf().

The curvature-arclength plot is easily done, yet the xy plot of the curve itself fails because Maxima isn't able to evaluate the functions x(t) and y(t).

Yet, it is not proof of linearity, just an illustration.

Spiral-Euler_Kr.png
Spiral-Euler_Kr.sm (34.32 KiB) downloaded 273 time(s).
Martin KraskaPre-configured portable distribution of SMath Studio: https://en.smath.info/wiki/SMath%20with%20Plugins.ashx
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Oscar Campo 9/28/2023 9:58:00 AM, Valery Ochkov 9/28/2023 4:22:00 AM
#8 Posted: 9/28/2023 11:22:42 AM
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