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#1 Posted: 4/4/2026 10:11:11 AM
Hello Everybody,
Sometimes, I deal with formulas laying out in a very long line, as shown in the appended file examples.
Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction.sm (72.77 KiB) downloaded 12 time(s).
To improve the use of such structures, I consider using a matrix presentation.
The sum of the matrix terms is equivalent to the input formula; see the checks in my examples.
Seeing the complex imbrication of the input formula’s terms, the “by hand organization” treatment is often fastidious and hard to prevent errors.
I imagine that many people had to face this problem of handling results from symbolic integration, for instance.
I noticed useful tools like “simplify,” “expand,” and “convert,” available with MAPLE. They are available also with Maxima.
I wonder if there is a way or a tool to deal with the problem in a more specific way?
Thanks for your attention and for your solutions.
Regards,
Ioan
Sometimes, I deal with formulas laying out in a very long line, as shown in the appended file examples.
Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction.sm (72.77 KiB) downloaded 12 time(s).
To improve the use of such structures, I consider using a matrix presentation.
The sum of the matrix terms is equivalent to the input formula; see the checks in my examples.
Seeing the complex imbrication of the input formula’s terms, the “by hand organization” treatment is often fastidious and hard to prevent errors.
I imagine that many people had to face this problem of handling results from symbolic integration, for instance.
I noticed useful tools like “simplify,” “expand,” and “convert,” available with MAPLE. They are available also with Maxima.
I wonder if there is a way or a tool to deal with the problem in a more specific way?
Thanks for your attention and for your solutions.
Regards,
Ioan
Edited 4/5/2026 7:30:38 PM
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#2 Posted: 4/5/2026 10:34:21 AM
Here is a version with the Mathcad block.
Unfortunatly not without something strange happening in the background.


Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction_Kr.sm (128.68 KiB) downloaded 1 time(s).
Unfortunatly not without something strange happening in the background.


Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction_Kr.sm (128.68 KiB) downloaded 1 time(s).
Edited 4/5/2026 10:38:50 AM
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#3 Posted: 4/5/2026 5:33:47 PM
Thanks for the attempt.
I tried to use some features available for manipulating formulas as wel in MAPLE as in MAXIMA, namely: expand() and simplify().
My idea is applied in the appended file. Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction bis .sm (33.2 KiB) downloaded 0 time(s).
This helped me to organize better (?) by hand the input sausage formula but it is not my hope.
My optimistic expectation would be a tool that handle this organization in enough simple way.
I tried to use some features available for manipulating formulas as wel in MAPLE as in MAXIMA, namely: expand() and simplify().
My idea is applied in the appended file. Long Lines Formulas - Width Reduction bis .sm (33.2 KiB) downloaded 0 time(s).
This helped me to organize better (?) by hand the input sausage formula but it is not my hope.
My optimistic expectation would be a tool that handle this organization in enough simple way.
Do to others as you would like them to do to you! Knowledge is of no value unless you put it into practice - Chekhov
#4 Posted: 4/5/2026 9:01:04 PM
I did proposed a better solution several years ago.
https://smath.com/en-US/forum/topic/vTrsUs/Equation-Wrapping#msg128281
https://smath.com/en-US/forum/topic/vTrsUs/Equation-Wrapping#msg128281
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