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#321 Posted: 8/17/2018 2:13:24 AM
Alvaro Diaz Falconi

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How can access to SMath variables? Seems that isn't with `::fun`



I changed the code and this feature was removed. I'll see how it can be restored.



Thanks for your answer, and your big contribution to this excellent software.

As I understand, the "component", this is the memo text editor, it's just only an utility for write the code.

For other side, the function Maple, even can take an string for parse it, don't accept intermediate variable nor functions definitions inside the string. For example, maple("a:=1: a+1:" ) gives an error.

So, maybe could be useful a function, like MapleString or something else, which takes a pure maple string and parse it in the same way that the component do that. Or in other words, a function that call the script procedure but with the text constructed in the SMath environment.

Another thing: Reading the post processing maple commands for handle the variable ans, I see that you don't use allvalues mpale's function. It could be useful for commands like maple(solve(x^4+x+1,x)).

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Alvaro.
#322 Posted: 8/22/2018 1:51:36 PM
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Hi everyone. I'm very interested in this wrapper. I tried it today, and it works.

I have a question regarding the license. Is the maple wrapper free/open source? If so, where can I download the original software?
#323 Posted: 8/22/2018 2:29:57 PM
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I have a question regarding the license.
Is the maple wrapper free/open source?
If so, where can I download the original software?

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Smath/Maple is part of the MapleSoft not freeware !
There is this immense French web site about functions,
most if not all that have animation are from Maple.

Jean

#324 Posted: 8/22/2018 2:33:05 PM
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There is this immense French web site about functions,



https://www.mathcurve.com/surfaces/sphere/sphere.shtml
#325 Posted: 8/22/2018 2:54:29 PM
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I have a question regarding the license.
Is the maple wrapper free/open source?
If so, where can I download the original software?

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Smath/Maple is part of the MapleSoft not freeware !
There is this immense French web site about functions,
most if not all that have animation are from Maple.

Jean



Thanks. So if it is part of MapleSoft which is I believe commercial. How is it available for SMath for free?

I'm asking because I'm a commercial software developer, and I'm in need of a symbolic engine like this to do some of my research.
#326 Posted: 8/22/2018 3:59:46 PM
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Thanks. So if it is part of MapleSoft which is I believe commercial. How is it available for SMath for free?

I'm asking because I'm a commercial software developer, and I'm in need of a symbolic engine like this to do some of my research.



The short story is like this:

In years 19XX, MIT was committed to develop a symbolic engine in partnership with the University
of Toronto. MIT was pedaling in butter with the original MacSyma. Toronto went alone and named
their product Waterloo Maple. They didn't invent much, rather borrowed from published books,
mostly Angot. So, as a reward, Mathsoft [Mathcad up to 11] was granted some access, as well as
Matlab of the time. I understand Smath was granted some free access, a gorgeous companion.

For the full version and packs, visit Maplesoft and be friend with your bank Manager.
About same $ as Mathematica, which is another symbolic engine. To me Maple ranks top.
Much easier to extract multiple solutions. There is plenty of Maple use in this forum.
Seemingly, former MacSyma is now Maxima.

Cheers ... Jean

#327 Posted: 8/22/2018 4:18:42 PM
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The wrapper itself is opensource (MIT license is assumed unless otherwise specified), and is essentially a translator between smath and maple languages.

About the maple assemblies the license status is unclear (as stated several times in this thread), thus I guess that you can use it for personal use only, unless you have a valid maple license.
If you like my plugins please consider to support the program buying a license; for personal contributions to me: paypal.me/dcprojects
#328 Posted: 8/22/2018 5:24:58 PM
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... one of so many !

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#329 Posted: 8/22/2018 5:33:15 PM
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hmmm, there seams to be some gray area here regarding the license.

Never the less. I very much prefer the Smath/Mathcad style instead of the command driven thing with mathematica and the rest.
#330 Posted: 8/22/2018 11:50:07 PM
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I very much prefer the Smath/Mathcad style instead of the command driven thing with mathematica and the rest.



Mathcad [11 and previous] style was more convivial than Smath/Maple.
Examine these 3 DE book style solved/export wrt the DE pertaining parameters.

ODE_Laplace Read First.sm (27 KiB) downloaded 76 time(s).
ODE_Laplace 1rst [Type 1].sm (24 KiB) downloaded 65 time(s).
ODE_Laplace 1rst [Type 2].sm (22 KiB) downloaded 61 time(s).
ODE_Laplace 2nd [Type 3].sm (33 KiB) downloaded 61 time(s).
#331 Posted: 8/23/2018 2:47:03 AM
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About the maple assemblies the license status is unclear (as stated several times in this thread), thus I guess that you can use it for personal use only, unless you have a valid maple license.



Academic uses, more likely personal. And is unclear because it's very old, for me the question if it is enough old . There are not many perpetual things (the entropy, maybe?), and software copywriter is not the case. For me the question is whether it's old enough as to have lost the copyright. If did not lose them, it have to be very close to doing it. Just like the Mathcad notebook-like user interface.

Best regards.
Alvaro.
#332 Posted: 8/23/2018 11:16:03 AM
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There are not many perpetual things (the entropy, maybe ?)



Can't be more right Alvaro !
Remember Valery web Maple site, down the drain after PTC.
BTW, one of the longest lived software is CATIA.
Just re-coded from the very original Dassault
... not a Windows system.
That reminds me a story: Mathcad 11 was delivered with the total Maple [11 ?]
One morning, a Mathsoft Collab [Martin] cracked it all for use in Mathcad 11.
I catched it before Mona that got pest off !!! and deleted from the forum,
and she spanked Martin [what a sermon !].

Cheers ... Jean

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#333 Posted: 8/23/2018 12:51:21 PM
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I bought Mathcad 15 a few years back thinking that now all my math needs are going to be resolved. Only to find out latter that it was actually an academic license. Years latter, I started a very small software business and now I can't even touch Matchcad for that purpose

SMath was always helpful but always needed that symbolic engine.
#334 Posted: 8/23/2018 2:18:43 PM
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I bought Mathcad 15 a few years back thinking that now all my math needs are going to be resolved. Only to find out latter that it was actually an academic license. Years latter, I started a very small software business and now I can't even touch Matchcad for that purpose



From recollection, Mathcad 15 symbolic was MuPad that evaporated itself from the planet.
Then PTC switched to Maxima. If PTC Mathcad 15 had access only to MuPad instead of the
MuPad itself, that explains why your MCD is dead like a stone. It may have to do with
Academic license as well. One day, Smath will be dead as well.
On May 15 2015 03:00 PTC resigned their contract with Macrovison.
Mathcad 11 Single User Edition could only be registered via Macrovision. All single
users like myself got zapped. Mathcad 11 Corporate Edition was not Macrovision protected,
and surely still working. Some time ago, from the PTC web MCD 11 updates [2] were still
available. At PTC MCD 14, it stopped reading lower versions.

Why do you need so much a symbolic engine ? Unless you are in quite advanced maths.

Cheers ... Jean


#335 Posted: 8/23/2018 2:36:50 PM
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Why do you need so much a symbolic engine ? Unless you are in quite advanced maths.

Cheers ... Jean



I'm an Audio/Music dsp programmer. A symbolic engine will be very helpful designing filters, to find symbolic coefficients, simplify transfer functions, and deal with complex numbers/variables.

As for Mathcad 15, it still works. Just cant legally use it for commercial stuff.
#336 Posted: 8/23/2018 5:25:27 PM
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I'm an Audio/Music dsp programmer. A symbolic engine will be very helpful designing filters, to find symbolic coefficients, simplify transfer functions, and deal with complex numbers/variables.

As for Mathcad 15, it still works. Just cant legally use it for commercial stuff.

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If I understand, you design or adapt music via DSP.
Try to code all that MCD stuff in Smath.
All those Wavelets are in the public domain since Morlet-Grossman & Pierre Malat
as old as mid 80, about same period than Bézier-DeCasteljau.
As soon as the Wavelets were known, FBI developed their own for fingerprints.
On the other hand, Smath is so slow ...
I have seen some of these code in Python.

Cheers ... Jean

#337 Posted: 8/23/2018 5:55:54 PM
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If I understand, you design or adapt music via DSP.



I make synthesizers and audio effects, think, echo, reverb. Lowpass filter etc.
I hate to turn this into self promotion, but since you asked, it's here: http://www.solostuff.net/solorack/

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Try to code all that MCD stuff in Smath.
All those Wavelets are in the public domain since Morlet-Grossman & Pierre Malat
as old as mid 80, about same period than Bézier-DeCasteljau.
As soon as the Wavelets were known, FBI developed their own for fingerprints.
On the other hand, Smath is so slow ...
I have seen some of these code in Python.

Cheers ... Jean



Sorry for my ignorance, I just couldn't decipher what you just said. What wavelets? I assume these guys are the developers?

#338 Posted: 8/23/2018 6:52:43 PM
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... something else may be of interest.
There is this free [0 $] gigantic French SCILAB ... 10 GB ! as perpetual code
in your machine as long as the life of your machine. Not available XP
anymore since April 2018. It does everything/anything in image processing.
Thus, including all sort of DSP [guessed].
I bet it does symbolic as well. Of no interest to me, not an equation editor.
#339 Posted: 8/24/2018 11:08:43 AM
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... something else may be of interest.
There is this free [0 $] gigantic French SCILAB ... 10 GB ! as perpetual code
in your machine as long as the life of your machine. Not available XP
anymore since April 2018. It does everything/anything in image processing.
Thus, including all sort of DSP [guessed].
I bet it does symbolic as well. Of no interest to me, not an equation editor.



It does look powerful. I'm currently looking at SageMath too.
#340 Posted: 9/13/2018 10:47:59 AM
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I found a problem with BodePlot, I try this way but it doesn't work. What should I do?

Bodeplot try

EDIT: in the image misses "C" defintion, btw also if I add it the result is the same.

EDIT2: I try also to change graphic details to "a:=BodePlot(`in`)" passing "sys" to graph but it doens't work
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