Same -possibly- unwanted behaviours using Smath - Сообщения
#1 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 08:15:33
In this period I am using Smath a lot .
Probably I have still not a clear idea of the keyboard shortcut and of other technique for copy & paste of element ...but there is something that I consider a litte bit frustrating when I work; I guess that is normal that while I am writing on the canvas I would like to copy & paste a piece of a formula somewhere else but when I do this comes up always the 3d graph as below reported ( I tried to copy the part of a formula hilighted in blu ) .
So I need to delete everything than place an equal somewhere and do again the copy & paste of a formula
There is no way in the future to improve on this ...or as usually I am missing some simple method to avoid this behaviour.
Thanks in advance and best regards
Franco
Probably I have still not a clear idea of the keyboard shortcut and of other technique for copy & paste of element ...but there is something that I consider a litte bit frustrating when I work; I guess that is normal that while I am writing on the canvas I would like to copy & paste a piece of a formula somewhere else but when I do this comes up always the 3d graph as below reported ( I tried to copy the part of a formula hilighted in blu ) .
So I need to delete everything than place an equal somewhere and do again the copy & paste of a formula
Thanks in advance and best regards
Franco
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ioan92 14.03.2016 09:21:00
#2 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 08:23:12
That's a wrong implementation in the plugin;
probably there is:
that should be:
probably there is:
public string[] SupportedClipboardFormats
{
get { return new string[] { DataFormats.UnicodeText }; }
}
that should be:
public string[] SupportedClipboardFormats
{
get { return new string[0]; }
}
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#3 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 10:03:21
Franco: like this
Jean
Jean
#4 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 10:28:23
... [suite] Smath copy to its own clipboard. It means you can't
paste in other applications [Paint ...]. You must use a capture
tools or simply Windows "Print Screen". I'm using a freeware
Wingrab [from Norway]. It supports several types of 256 color
reduction, just excellent. If I want to downsample an image to
be pasted in Smath, transit via IrfanView, "ResizeResample",
it is a zoom up/down of best quality [Lanczos]. IrfanView has
a useful option to enhance poor image from the web. This option
is "Sharpen" ... very effective most of the time.
Try it ,,, Jean
paste in other applications [Paint ...]. You must use a capture
tools or simply Windows "Print Screen". I'm using a freeware
Wingrab [from Norway]. It supports several types of 256 color
reduction, just excellent. If I want to downsample an image to
be pasted in Smath, transit via IrfanView, "ResizeResample",
it is a zoom up/down of best quality [Lanczos]. IrfanView has
a useful option to enhance poor image from the web. This option
is "Sharpen" ... very effective most of the time.
Try it ,,, Jean
#5 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 11:02:55
Yes Jean exactly.
Your workaround is to place a very small text box on the canvas and then copy & paste the formula or part of it over there.
It is manageable , not as we are accustomed in all [MS] Office or other SW over this earth ...but manageable.
Hope that in a +/- distant future this issue can be addressed.
Best Regards
Franco
Your workaround is to place a very small text box on the canvas and then copy & paste the formula or part of it over there.
It is manageable , not as we are accustomed in all [MS] Office or other SW over this earth ...but manageable.
Hope that in a +/- distant future this issue can be addressed.
Best Regards
Franco
#6 Опубликовано: 14.03.2016 19:46:39
Hope that in a /- distantfuture this issue can be addressed.
I see that Viacheslav has updated the plugin (3D Plot Region version 0.1.5917.*), download it and everything should go fine.
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#7 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 03:10:32
Downloaded ( better to say that I have upgraded all the plug-in ) and the problem is fixed now.
Thanks a lot to you and UNI
Best Regards
Franco
Thanks a lot to you and UNI
Best Regards
Franco
#8 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 04:35:33
Hi,
I really apologize to bother again on the usability side but there are problems of copy & paste directly something from a formula in the following operators available in the functions palette:
Summation
Iterated product
Derivative
Definite Integral
If this issue could be addressed I guess that it would be a big benefits for everyone to streamline the workflow.
Best regards
Franco
I really apologize to bother again on the usability side but there are problems of copy & paste directly something from a formula in the following operators available in the functions palette:
Summation
Iterated product
Derivative
Definite Integral
If this issue could be addressed I guess that it would be a big benefits for everyone to streamline the workflow.
Best regards
Franco
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Davide Carpi 15.03.2016 06:09:00
#9 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 06:11:24
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#10 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 10:29:24
Franco,
You are doig wrong from the premise.
'f' w/o argument is uknown to me except in some Mathematica
and similar coding. Your polynomial suite is college style.
el(a,1)+el(a,2)*x+el(a,3)*x^2+el(a,4)*x^3
That style would be very difficult to implement advanced
functions, as they are coded on index parameter. Further,
it wouldn't accommodate the Genfit model fit as we use
partial derivative wrt paramaters.
Don't worry, this mishandling will come as long as Smath
will exist. Same thing in Mathcad. Just a learning step
making advanced CAS work. BTW, you mention more problems
Summation, Iterated product ... NO example.
Jean
Integrate Derivative General Procedure.sm
You are doig wrong from the premise.
'f' w/o argument is uknown to me except in some Mathematica
and similar coding. Your polynomial suite is college style.
el(a,1)+el(a,2)*x+el(a,3)*x^2+el(a,4)*x^3
That style would be very difficult to implement advanced
functions, as they are coded on index parameter. Further,
it wouldn't accommodate the Genfit model fit as we use
partial derivative wrt paramaters.
Don't worry, this mishandling will come as long as Smath
will exist. Same thing in Mathcad. Just a learning step
making advanced CAS work. BTW, you mention more problems
Summation, Iterated product ... NO example.
Jean
Integrate Derivative General Procedure.sm
#11 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 11:07:59
Joan,
I am talking of very basic things in the normal usage of a program ( every program that we are accustomed to use )and an Example of the issue is in the e-mail of Davide.
However just to be clear let's try to do a definite integral of sen(x) from 0 to 1 in Smath.
I click on the Functions palette on the Definite Integral operator.
It comes up on the canvas ..then I want simply copy & past the sin(x) function that I have used 2 milliseconds before in another part of the canvas ..and this is NOT possible .
...And the same issue happens for all the other 3 operators included in my e-mail , for all the other ones in the same palette there is no such a type of problem.
Hope that it is clear the issue even if I haven't supplied a picture
Best regards
Franco
I am talking of very basic things in the normal usage of a program ( every program that we are accustomed to use )and an Example of the issue is in the e-mail of Davide.
However just to be clear let's try to do a definite integral of sen(x) from 0 to 1 in Smath.
I click on the Functions palette on the Definite Integral operator.
It comes up on the canvas ..then I want simply copy & past the sin(x) function that I have used 2 milliseconds before in another part of the canvas ..and this is NOT possible .
...And the same issue happens for all the other 3 operators included in my e-mail , for all the other ones in the same palette there is no such a type of problem.
Hope that it is clear the issue even if I haven't supplied a picture
Best regards
Franco
#12 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 13:00:14
... just try to reproduce the examples below.
The gray area needs a special construct in
"Samples Genfit Model".
What you are saying makes no sense unless your
Smath is all scrapped. If you have defined
f(x):=SQRT(sin(x), plug f(x) in the integrand
place holder, assign limits, and dx... bingo.
Jean
The gray area needs a special construct in
"Samples Genfit Model".
What you are saying makes no sense unless your
Smath is all scrapped. If you have defined
f(x):=SQRT(sin(x), plug f(x) in the integrand
place holder, assign limits, and dx... bingo.
Jean
#13 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 13:33:29
...there are problems of copy & paste directly something from a formula in the following operators available in the functions palette:
Summation
Iterated product
Derivative
Definite Integral
If this issue could be addressed I guess that it would be a big benefits for everyone to streamline the workflow.
Fixed in http://en.smath.info/forum/yaf_postst7361_RC3--SMath-Studio-0-98-5918--15-March-2016.aspx.
Best regards.
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Davide Carpi 15.03.2016 13:58:00
#14 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 13:53:49
Joan
I am perfectly aware that my capability of explanation in English is very poor ..but make me worry that I have reached a so low level.
However I am famous for never give up ... and this is my new attempt in explaining what is happening, hoping to succeed this time3 ...with pictures
.
So as you can see a vary super basic operation is not allowed.
What I am trying to stress is the need for a CONSISTENT behaviour of the program using the same command of copy & paste with all the operators available on the palette and not with just a subset of them ...simply this.
Best Regards
Franco
I am perfectly aware that my capability of explanation in English is very poor ..but make me worry that I have reached a so low level.
However I am famous for never give up ... and this is my new attempt in explaining what is happening, hoping to succeed this time3 ...with pictures
.So as you can see a vary super basic operation is not allowed.
What I am trying to stress is the need for a CONSISTENT behaviour of the program using the same command of copy & paste with all the operators available on the palette and not with just a subset of them ...simply this.
Best Regards
Franco
#15 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 15:33:12
So as you can see a vary super basic operation is not allowed.
It works with latest nightly build: http://en.smath.info/forum/yaf_postst7361_RC3--SMath-Studio-0-98-5918--15-March-2016.aspx
Just try it.
#16 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 15:47:14
Yes it works fine Andrey , thanks a lot for the prompt fix.
Best Regards
Franco
Best Regards
Franco
#17 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 16:13:22
Franco,
It works fine as you wish [copy/paste] in Smath 5346.
It was just a problem with your Smath version.
Jean
It works fine as you wish [copy/paste] in Smath 5346.
It was just a problem with your Smath version.
Jean
#18 Опубликовано: 15.03.2016 16:28:06
... try that one by reconstruction in your version.
It might work from my 5346 but not naturally in the
latest nightly build ... Ah !
Jean
It might work from my 5346 but not naturally in the
latest nightly build ... Ah !
Jean
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